You Need A Budget (YNAB) Review – A CFP’s Opinion
By Neal@Wealth Pilgrim on Jun 14, 2010 in How To Spend Less Money, Reviews
I finally broke down and decided to review You Need A Budget (YNAB) — the premier personal budget software package — and I’ll tell you why.
Even though I’m a professional financial advisor and Certified Financial Planner, what you do financially dwarfs the importance of my work.
That’s right.
Even if you had Warren Buffet working for you, it would be useless if you didn’t know where and how you spent your money.
I say that because of my experience.
And my experience tells me that folks who don’t use a budget either:
a. Spend it all
b. Don’t save enough
c. Don’t spend enough and therefore fail to enjoy the life they could. (Maybe this is hard to believe but I see this every day.)
I don’t care how much you make.
The balance you strike between income and spending is the most important predictor of your financial future there is.
Let me say that again a little differently.
The best predictor of your financial security is how much you know about and control your budget.
If you’re a regular reader, you know that I’ve suggested a few different approaches to mastering your budget. One of my favorites is using your bank statement to tell you how much you spend, on average, each month.
While I still think this “big picture” approach is really important, I’ve recently become a convert to the “You Need A Budget” crowd.
In case you aren’t familiar with “You Need A Budget”(YNAB) it’s a nifty little software package that allows you to track your spending, budget for your future and generally help you fix your financial problems.
I’ve joined the ranks of the “true believers” for two reasons:
1. I constantly receive unsolicited endorsements of the program from clients, readers and friends. As a result, I figured it was worthwhile looking into.
2. Once I took a look “under the hood”, I realized how powerful an agent it could be to help people really get their financial houses in order. I kicked myself for missing out on the benefits but I wasn’t about to let any more time go by.
YOU NEED A BUDGET (YNAB) – THE MOTHER OF ALL REVIEWS
To start off, it’s important that you understand that the program has a mission; to help you stop living paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt and save more money faster.
It’s built on zero based budgeting. You enter your income for the month and then budget how it’s going to be spent or saved. Get it? Using this method, you don’t spend more than you have. (A novel idea who’s time has come.)
The Rules:
Rule #1 – Stop living paycheck to paycheck.
The idea is that you use the money you earned last month to support yourself this month. You don’t spend money you earned this month – or the money you think you’ll earn in the future.
This is a stroke of genius and frankly, I’m disappointed I didn’t come up with it myself.
This helps get you out of the habit of living on money you don’t have.
In order to achieve this, the software actually helps you stash a month’s earnings away.
If you are in debt, accomplishing this may seem daunting. However, saving a month’s earnings isn’t as difficult as you might imagine. Also, the folks at YNAB give you some great ideas on how to get this done and even build up to it. And thousands of others have used YNAB to stop living paycheck to paycheck. Why shouldn’t you be able to do it?
Rule #2 Give Every Dollar A Job.
This is something I’ve never done but I can see how important it is. You basically assign every single dollar you earn a role. (It takes about 20 minutes the first time. After the first month, you can handle this task in about 20 seconds.)
A particular dollar’s job can be to pay for current needs or it can be to provide for future needs or saving…but every dollar has a specific task.
This is beautiful because it makes it almost impossible for you to spend without thinking. (I know you never do this but somebody you know might benefit by having this constraint.
Rule #3: Save for a Rainy Day
You might be pretty good at handling your day-to-day expenses, but how do you handle those unusual bills? Do you panic when the insurance bill comes due? Property taxes? When it’s time to fix the roof?
The software is designed to get rid of this roller coaster ride by smoothing out your true expenses. Me likey.
Rule #4: Roll with the Punches
This rule throws you a life-line when you break one (or more) of the 3 rules above. I guess they figured out that nobody’s perfect. Imagine that…
They actually build that into the system.
Sweet.
It’s OK to blow it but it’s not OK to give up. If you’ve ever started a budget “diet” only to fall off the wagon, you know how important a life line is. This software is designed to help you when you hit those life bumps.
Installation
It took me about a minute to install YNAB and it was a good omen. I like the fact the designers make it easy from the start. You won’t have any troubles here.
Using YNAB
When I clicked on the icon, the program opened immediately and it showed me the pretty picture above. As you can see, you are invited to either open up your most recent file, create a new budget or open an existing YNAB file.
I created a new budget.
At this point, my choices are “Accounts”, “Budget” or “Reports”. Obviously, I couldn’t run a budget or report until I have my accounts set up with some data. Even if this wasn’t clear to me, the “Getting Started” tutorials (documentation and video) would walk me through the set up stage really well.
Accounts
When you select “Accounts”, you basically open up an electronic checkbook register. This is where you’re going to record your expenses and deposits in each of your accounts. You can open a new “account” instantly and easily.
Once you’ve opened an account, the register opens. This electronic register is just like your check register. (But one difference is that this register allows you to electronically search for certain transactions and schedule recurring transactions. I’ll come back to this in a bit.)
Adding entries to the register is a breeze.
Just click where it says “add a new transaction.”
Type in the date, payee and category. Then you can make any memo if you want. Last, indicate the amount as an inflow (deposit) or outflow (expense).
Doesn’t hurt a bit.
The power of this program is really in how you use the categories.
You see….this “assigning categories” issue is often overlooked but that’s a mistake.
When you assign a category to an expense, that’s how you track your spending. And if you don’t assign the right category….you not tracking your money.
If the program you use makes assigning categories difficult, you’ll backslide. You’ll take the easy way out. If that’s the case, you shouldn’t bother using any software at all.
I like the way YNAB handles categories.
YNAB has quite a few categories set up already and if you need to create a new one, it’s much easier to do than with Quicken or Quickbooks.
You can also split an expense across many categories which is handy. That’s important because when you go to Costco, you might spend $200….but $100 on groceries and $100 on clothing. The split function allows you to keep track of that.
Downloading transactions
You can either manually input your transactions as I just described or download them from your bank and credit card company.
Most banks allow you to download data and I’m a huge fan of doing so. It saves me a huge amount of time.
YNAB allows you to import data from just about any format so if your bank provides any downloads, YNAB will work for you. The most common formats banks use are OFX, QFX, QIF, and CSV files. They all work with this software.
One complaint that others have is that you have to download and save the file from the bank before importing into YNAB. I can tell you that it’s no big deal.
I’ve been using Quicken and Quickbooks for years and even though the download is seamless, it still takes a long time to get all my transactions into those old dinosaurs. That’s because of the ardous way Quickbooks and Quicken handle categories.
All told, it was actually easier to get the data into YNAB even though the download isn’t seamless.
In short, the data importing feature was really a pleasure to work with. All the transactions downloaded fast and assigning categories to each transaction was fantastic.
Let’s get back to “search”
I love this function. How would you use it?
Let’s say the doctor says you didn’t pay her and you know you did?
This search feature will help you prove it faster. You can also see how many times you visited Starbucks and how much you spent there. The search box will show you every time you spent money with any vendor. You can also export this info to excel.
The Budget
This, as we say around the dinner table, is where the matzo balls meet the soup.
The budget section is what keeps you on track. Here, you’ll enter your budget. Then the program compares your actual numbers to that budgeted numbers and let’s you know two things:
a. Are you on track?
b. If not, what do you need to do differently?
This is a huge benefit to you that no other program offers.
Here’s an example of a blank budget:
As you can see, it’s pretty straight forward. Just download your data and input your budget.
But here’s the feature that really made me fall in love with YNAB:
The program won’t let you budget money you don’t have. This is what makes YNAB different and better than anything else I’ve seen on the market.
This feature forces you to live within your means. I love it and so should you.
The screen shows your budgeted amount, the actual money spent and any balance.
Just what the doctor ordered.
Budget Categories
I mentioned categories above when we looked at data input. Now, let’s see how to use them with your budget.
The program comes with default “Master Categories” but you can change the names and add new categories. These are you major buckets of expenses.
I have such master categories as Charity, Investing, Utilities, Groceries, Auto, Clothing, Recreation etc. Under each master category you can create sub categories.
Once you set up your categories your ready to set up a budget number for each category. When you input or download your actual numbers, you assign each transaction to one of these categories so you can see how you’re doing.
Budgeting
The budgeting window is built around your “Available to Budget” amount which is taken from your account balance automatically. If you don’t have the money…..they won’t let you budget it. Built in accountability without the whining. YES!
If you overspend this month in any particular category, YNAB will let you know. You have to make up for it (another plus).
Say you budgeted $500 for groceries last month but you spent $600. The program will allow you to either budget $400 for groceries this month, or just cut the “Available to Budget” back by $100 and let you decide where to make the cuts.
No such thing as “deficit spending” in YNAB land. Should we buy a copy for the boys and girls in Washington?
YNAB also allows you to save for future purchases or events. This way, when the insurance bill comes due 3 months from now….you’ll have the money to pay for it. Nice.
Reports
All the personal budget software programs have nice reports and YNAB is no exception. YNAB’s reports are clean and easy to understand. You can also export the data into a CSV file which will allow you to play with the numbers in Excel.
While you might be a person that values having a wide variety of reports, I’m not. I just want to see my actual expense vs my budgeted expense. The “Budget” screen tells me everything I need to know. Did I spend what I said I’d spend? If not, what’s the problem. End of story. That’s the only report I need and YNAB delivers it like no other program. If you want other reports or want to export the data to Excel and go wild….YNAB will oblige.
SUPPORT
The support is another feature that shines. YNAB includes dozens of video tutorials and on screen help (see the FAQ’s below). Also, and this blew me away, they actually provide online classes with real human instructors available to answer your questions. So if you need someone to hold you hand as you set up the software and/or implement it, this is your dream come true. Just try to call Quicken or Quickbooks for support and you’ll know how valuable this feature is.
In Summary
You Need A Budget is an excellent piece of software. It’s simple to use and easy to understand. The tutorials are great and the program gets the job done. Unlike other programs I’ve seen, YNAB is “solutions” oriented.
While the other programs do a good job at reporting what’s going on, YNAB helps you live within your means and see what you need to do to get back on track when you don’t.
Features I Love:
· Simple to install and use
· Intuitive
· Has anto-pay feature which saves tons of time with reoccurring payments.
· Holds your hand as you install the program and work with it. The documentation and tutorials are top flight – but you probably won’t need them.
· Free online budgeting classes with live instructors for Q & A. Unheard of.
· Unique approach, proven methodology and change agent for thousands of users. (according to their webstie, the average YNAB user pays off $500 in debt in their first 30 days)
· Can run on Mac or Windows
· 30-day Money Back Guarantee
YNAB is for you if:
You are in debt, living paycheck to paycheck or not saving money fast enough. If you know what to do but somehow don’t do it, the built in “accountability partner” features should really pay off for you. If you’ve used Quicken or other software and felt overwhelmed by the complexity and underwhelmed by the support and results, you’ll enjoy YNAB and what it can do for you.
I also think this is a fantastic gift for college or high-school graduates. Let’s get them started off on the right foot….right?
YNAB is not for you if:
You have a system to track your spending that’s working.
You’re not in debt, you don’t live paycheck to paycheck and you save money fast enough. Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.
Also, if you’re looking for a program to track your investments, YNAB isn’t your best choice.
My Recommendation
I’m recommending this program to all my clients and I recommend it to you too. It’s easy, simply and quick. It holds you accountable and keeps you on track. It’s the strongest budgeting software available and offers support that is unparalleled.
The Cost, and The Freebie
The price is only $59.95 so grab your copy now.
Also, they provide a free 7 day trial and a full 30 day money back guarantee. Try it. What have you got to lose…except maybe some debt?
Oh…and one last thing….if you buy it from the link above, send me a copy of your receipt. I’ll send you my e-book (Money Academy for Couples) for free.
Yes…it really is Christmas in June….
Is it worth the investment?
Well…if you would like to get out of debt, stop living paycheck to paycheck and save money faster and you think it would be worth it to pay $59.95 one time in order to achieve that and stay on track for the rest of your life….then yes…..it’s worth it.
(If you don’t think those benefits are worth the 60 bucks you should spend the money to get your head examined first…then buy the software.)
You should get this for your kids or grand kids if you don’t need it. The benefits to them are enormous.
There are free programs out there and you also have the option of making a spreadsheet up yourself. But you won’t get anything like the pay off that this program offers.
I have an accounting degree and I’ve been working with clients struggling with their finances for over 25 years. I also have the luxury of alternatives. I can endorse any program I want.
I would not bestow the Pilgrim seal of approval unless I was 100% satisfied that YNAB was the way to go and I can tell you that it is.
FAQ’s
1 Does the program automatically backup?
No, not in the current version although that feature is on the way. It does prompt you to save though if you haven’t yet when closing the software out.
2. Does it offer print features?
Yes. You can print reports, the register and the budget directly to PDF file for emailing, archiving or printing to paper from there.
3. How large is the pdf set-up guide?
The entire manual is 106 pages but the guide to get started is only a single page long. Everything that you will find in the manual is within the software and is backed up by extensive ‘inline’ help with pop-ups that guide you every step of the way.
4. How many tutorials are there?
44 currently with more on the way.
5. How often are the classes held? How many per week?
At a minimum weekly with as many as 3 or more at times and all of them are completely FREE and without any obligation at all.
6. How long does it take for the average user to become capable?
That’s a tough one because it’s truly dependent upon the individual’s ability as well as how much they want to put into learning the ropes. That said, YNAB is different but it’s not difficult and on average you could learn it in an hour – the length of our getting started webinars.
7. How long is the guarantee? What are the terms?
The money back guarantee is for 30 days no questions asked.
8. Can it run on Mac or Windows?
Yes!
YNAB 3 will run on Windows, Mac or Linux computers and you can easily share the very same budget data file amongst the 3 without the need for conversion.
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14 Comment(s)
By FinEngr on Jun 14, 2010 | Reply
Neal:
I was blown out of the water with your first sentence.
This is a GREAT review. Surprised there isn’t more feedback yet, this is probably one of the more comprehensive reviews I’ve seen.
A Quicken user for several years now, I’ve been interested in checking out this program as I’ve seen it popping up in more places.
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By Neal on Jun 14, 2010 | Reply
Thanks….those are very kind words.
Let me know what you think of the program!
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By Mike on Jun 14, 2010 | Reply
I currently use Mint for budgeting & I’d be interested in a brefi post comparing the 2. Its a great review but I’m not sure why I need to spend the $60 when Mint is free. I will add however, I do not live paycheck to paycheck.
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By Dean on Jun 14, 2010 | Reply
Sorry dude. Tried the link to buy it, doesn’t work.
BTW really enjoyed your post a while back about becoming a CFP.
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By Neal on Jun 15, 2010 | Reply
Dean,
Thanks…the link is working now.
GO GET IT MAN! Let me know what you think about the program.
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By Ronaldo on Jun 15, 2010 | Reply
Great review – as a YNAB user I enjoy to read what others think of the software…
Thou Im still on the “get rid of the debts” phase
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Neal@Wealth Pilgrim Reply:
June 16th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Well….you’re certainly on the right track if you’re using YNAB. Keep it up and let us all know how you’re doing…
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By theFIsh on Jun 16, 2010 | Reply
Another reason to love YNAB: the user forums
YNAB users are so in love with this program, and Jesse and the rest of the YNAB team are so personable, that the forums area a major source of pleasure in using this software. Newbies will always find oldbies and power-users to answer any question–and I’ve never seen a question that hasn’t been answered within 24 hours. Some questions are answered with a quick point to a previous thread, but people will also stick with you on anything difficult until things are crystal-clear. I’ve never seen a friendlier, more polite, helpful and positive group anywhere on the World Wide Web.
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Neal@Wealth Pilgrim Reply:
June 16th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
that’s been my experience as well so far.
i think they’ll bury Quicken if nobody buys them out.
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By LilDee on Jun 16, 2010 | Reply
Hi Neal, I discovered your website at one of the trackbacks at YNAB website. I’ve already read through all 34 pages of your blog and I love it. I especially love that you address self-employed individuals as not that many financial websites do. The financial planning needs of self-employed individuals are different from those of the employed.
Anywho, returning to the topic at hand, I love YNAB. I’ve been using it (somewhat inconsistently) for the past year and definitely think that it’s an improvement over Money. I’ve recommended it to so many friends and colleagues that they think that either (1) I’m crazy (possibly true) or (2) work for YNAB on the sly (false). I just did some webinars last night and discovered tips to improve how I use YNAB so I definitely find that customer support is better than with other software vendors. Re the deficit spending issue, my husband never understands when I tell him that we don’t have money to buy something at Best Buy when he clearly sees money sitting in our bank accounts. YNAB has taught me to spend by the budget rather than the account, so I find it helpful and it also has helped me (in my mind at least) be less of a cheapskate wife when I see that we have money that’s available to spend above our budgeted amounts. I don’t use it for work because I use industry-specific software so I can’t speak on that issue.
I do find, however, that my management of cash itself needs improvement and hope that YNAB will put out some mobile/Blackberry solution that I can use at the Starbucks counter when I remember.
To summarize my long-winded comment, I just wanted to say that I am a new fan of your blog and that I agree with your assessment that YNAB is awesome
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By Neal@Wealth Pilgrim on Jun 16, 2010 | Reply
Thanks! I’m really happy that you joined us on the journey and I’m very pleased that you dig YNAB as much as I do.
I discovered it only because people like you raved about it so much I had to take a peek myself.
Thanks for those very kind words.
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By Steve Mudie on Jun 20, 2010 | Reply
Hi Neal,
Thank you for such an amazing review!
While I’m always pleased to read reviews of YNAB (I’m the customer service manager at ynab.com for those that don’t know) your approach right at the start explaining *why* budgeting is important was refreshing to read and hopefully motivates your readers to action – whether it is with YNAB or some other approach.
As an aside, I noticed that I goofed in my response to your FAQ inquiries regarding automatic backups before you wrote your review. The answer I provided you with applies to auto-SAVES but not automatic backups. That feature (saves) is on the way and the response there fits. Backups are already a feature and here is how it works.
YNAB automatically backs up your file to a folder directly under where you save your file to or to one that you designate. When it does so it renames the file in relation to the date/time that you saved it so that you have a handy archive of 10 recent saves to fall back upon should you need to step back for any reason.
Even with the automatic backup it’s very important that you backup elsewhere as well since if the drive that you are saving to goes bad or is lost you’re out of luck.
Thanks!
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By Read Johnston on Jun 30, 2010 | Reply
Neal, I really appreciated your review and tried to click on your link to buy the program. This is what came up on the order page: “Important Message coupon code pilgrim is invalid.”
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By Tom on Jul 3, 2010 | Reply
What a great review! I have been using YNAB for about a year now, and it is truly amazing. Too hard to grasp how fundamentally different/unique this app is when compared to Quicken, etc. And the support is outstanding, from the developers, to the interactive forums, to the training videos, if you have a question you WILL get in-depth answers until you are completely up to speed on your issue. Same goes for brainstorming any budgeting/spending habits questions you may seek advise for from other users. Simply stated, I don’t expect anyone requests a refund after using the app.
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By John on Aug 19, 2010 | Reply
Hi Neal,
So if I started my budget now and I had an annual bill due in February, would I budget the necessary funds over the next 5-6 months and then cut back the budgeted amount for that category in Feb after that payment is made (budget over 12 months)? Thanks for your help and I enjoyed your review.
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By Deborah on Aug 26, 2010 | Reply
We clicked on the link above and purchased YNAB. We’re interested in receiving the free e-book, but where do we send the receipt?
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