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		<title>By: Neal</title>
		<link>http://wealthpilgrim.com/why-i-dont-buy-proshares-etfs-vanguard-etfs-any-etfs-now-part-ii/#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk,

Your points are spot on.  I don&#039;t believe you can use active funds and walk away. If you use active funds you need:
a. some mechanism that will help you find those performing better than 80% (at least) of the others
b. a method that re-examines your holdings every so often.  I do it monthly.

I look at short-term performance (a year, 9 months, 6 months, 3 months and rank the universe of funds that are in a similar risk category.  I then select the top performers.  Then, I re-run the process monthly.

This is still no guarantee that it will outperform buy and hold - I admit it.  

Again, it&#039;s a question of what you want out of your investing and what you are willing to accept from it as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk,</p>
<p>Your points are spot on.  I don&#8217;t believe you can use active funds and walk away. If you use active funds you need:<br />
a. some mechanism that will help you find those performing better than 80% (at least) of the others<br />
b. a method that re-examines your holdings every so often.  I do it monthly.</p>
<p>I look at short-term performance (a year, 9 months, 6 months, 3 months and rank the universe of funds that are in a similar risk category.  I then select the top performers.  Then, I re-run the process monthly.</p>
<p>This is still no guarantee that it will outperform buy and hold &#8211; I admit it.  </p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s a question of what you want out of your investing and what you are willing to accept from it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Kinder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Kinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neal,

Solid post, but I am not sure that active funds are topping most index based vehicles right now. In fact, the number over 2008 and 2009 from what I have seen has been 90% fail to top the index.

And, it isn&#039;t the same 10% or 20% that beat the market each year so it is very difficult to find the top managers. Bill Miller is a great example. So how do you pick the right managers? This is just as difficult as picking the right stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal,</p>
<p>Solid post, but I am not sure that active funds are topping most index based vehicles right now. In fact, the number over 2008 and 2009 from what I have seen has been 90% fail to top the index.</p>
<p>And, it isn&#8217;t the same 10% or 20% that beat the market each year so it is very difficult to find the top managers. Bill Miller is a great example. So how do you pick the right managers? This is just as difficult as picking the right stocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MJ,

Thanks.  Yes...you bring up a great point and one that did not occur to me.  Lots of blogs offer personal experience and there really is a place for that.  But I think readers can gain in a different way by having an objective view point - even if they disagree.

Thanks Pal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJ,</p>
<p>Thanks.  Yes&#8230;you bring up a great point and one that did not occur to me.  Lots of blogs offer personal experience and there really is a place for that.  But I think readers can gain in a different way by having an objective view point &#8211; even if they disagree.</p>
<p>Thanks Pal.</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neal, 

Great Post.  I think there is a more important you indirectly bring up (please tell me if I am wrong).  

Comparing this post with the other 3,000 posts out there on investing from blogs like your&#039;s and mine - highlights the difference between professionals (you!) and those that want to control their own investments (most other blogs).  

Both have their place, but there is a reason you get paid by clients to invest and it has nothing to do with your&#039;s and the financial industries&#039; jedi mind tricks.  

Great post buddy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal, </p>
<p>Great Post.  I think there is a more important you indirectly bring up (please tell me if I am wrong).  </p>
<p>Comparing this post with the other 3,000 posts out there on investing from blogs like your&#8217;s and mine &#8211; highlights the difference between professionals (you!) and those that want to control their own investments (most other blogs).  </p>
<p>Both have their place, but there is a reason you get paid by clients to invest and it has nothing to do with your&#8217;s and the financial industries&#8217; jedi mind tricks.  </p>
<p>Great post buddy!</p>
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		<title>By: Neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

Good points.  I would never suggest that anyone use an active strategy with loaded funds. 

To your point about the fleeting nature of market gains - again you are right.  Active funds will likely get slammed more as the market pulls back.  Also, as I tried to point out, probably not strongly enough, an active strategy could - and will - under perform for extended periods of time.  If you look at the post on timing (linked) you&#039;ll see an example of a strategy that goes back decades.  While there were long periods of under performance, overall the strategy did an excellent job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Good points.  I would never suggest that anyone use an active strategy with loaded funds. </p>
<p>To your point about the fleeting nature of market gains &#8211; again you are right.  Active funds will likely get slammed more as the market pulls back.  Also, as I tried to point out, probably not strongly enough, an active strategy could &#8211; and will &#8211; under perform for extended periods of time.  If you look at the post on timing (linked) you&#8217;ll see an example of a strategy that goes back decades.  While there were long periods of under performance, overall the strategy did an excellent job.</p>
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