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Financial Aid Forms – Best Way To Increase College Aid for Free?

You can take steps now so that when you complete the financial aid forms, you’ll get more money.

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I read an artcle in Investors Business Daily over the weekend that explained a neat little trick that will help. I’m going to explain it in just a second….and then I’m going to explain how the paper completely missed a much more important step that will save you a heck of a lot more money.

First some background to help you understand the slick trick on those financial aid forms.

If you want tuition assistance, the most important financial aid form you’ll complete is the FAFSA form. In it, you’ll tell Big Brother how much you (the parents) earn and have saved and how much the student earns and has saved. Money you and your student have reduces the aid you’ll get for college. However, only 5.64% of the parents’ assets are counted versus 20% of the student’s assets. That being said, it may make sense to move assets from the student to the parent.

One way the paper suggests people do this is by moving any money in custodial accounts ( which are counted as assets of the student) to 529 plans (which are counted as assets of the parents). Of course if you do this, you have to think about capital gains on any positions you sell and you should consult your tax adviser before doing anything.

But all things considered, it was a pretty nifty idea and one you may want to use. (You should consider this especially if your children are young and you are just starting to build up a college fund for them.)

Now….here’s where the article completely blew it.

While they rightfully extol the benefits of obtaining a college degree, they failed to point out the benefits of getting the degree as cheaply as possible.

At first, I was hopeful they would. Early in the article, they even pointed out that the average private college will cost you at least $35,000 while the average state school is $15,000. I thought they’d focus on that….but alas they didn’t.

It doesn’t take an Ivy League journalist genius to do the math. That’ll save you $20,000 after-tax clams a year. Sweet.

You’d have to convert a heck of a lot of money from a custodian account to a 529 before you’d get anywhere near the savings that you get by getting your undergraduate degree from a state school.

I’ve written about this many times before and I’m going to keep writing about it every chance I get.

I’ve seen so many people mortgage (and forfeit) their future to send their kids to the “best schools”. When those kids get into the work place, they end up working right beside the kids that went to state schools. The only difference is the kids who went to state colleges don’t have the $100,000 loans that their private school compadres have.

There has never been any conclusive study that justifies the astronomical cost of private school for undergraduate work. In fact, the studies I’ve seen support just the opposite conclusion.

Today is President’s Day. Nine U.S. presidents ddn’t even go to college — including George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. I’m not saying that college is a waste of time and money. I am strongly suggesting that you remain aware of the tactics that will save you nickels and dimes….but stay alert and focus on the strategies that will give your kids a great career path, fine education and as little debt as possible for them and you.

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“Pilgrim Jr. Goes To College” Edition of Weekend Reading

 
First Day of School Pictures, Images and Photos
 

As you read this, I’ll be with my family on our way to drop off our daughter at college. 

It’s a surreal experience. To be completely frank, I’m not sure how I feel about it.

We do have some experience with being physically apart from our children – our eldest has been overseas for more than 3 years.  We visit often and talk daily but it was a shift – no doubt about it.

As we tried to get ready for that change 3 years ago, we didn’t really understand this day would come too. Sure we knew the day would come…..but we really didn’t understand it. Maybe these kinds of days are impossible to understand until they arrive.

I’m not really worried about this or overly emotional.  But I do think it’s a great reminder.

Time marches on.  If our kids grow up and go to college…..that might mean…eh…yes…it does mean…..I’m getting older too.  From a financial perspective, this means that I have to continue to prepare for the days ahead.  I can’t ignore the future just because I’m too busy answering my email.

I have to track my spending & treat saving for retirement as an expense like any other.

Even though I’m relatively young, I have to nail down a transition plan for my business - just in case. 

I have to make sure my trust is updated.

What about you?  Have you been treating your financial future like it’s never going to arrive?  How did you feel when you did take action to strengthen your financial future?

While you’re considering that….let’s look at your weekend reading suggestions:

 Liz Weston gets the Pilgrim Pick of the Pack for her article explaining the three questions we should be asking when it comes to renewing our homeowners insurance.

I like Liz’s article because homeowner’s insurance intimidates me.  These three questions turn the tables and help me (and you) make sure we have the right coverage.  Well done Liz!

Can blog articles replace real financial planning? Carl over at Behavior Gap.com dishes this one out.  It might be self-serving for me to promote this article but I happen to think Carl makes an excellent point.  I think radio/blog/magazine information is great and important – but I don’t think it’s a substitute for knowledgeable advice.  What is your take?

The Weakonomist discusses how much your time is really worth.  I talked about this yesterday but this article puts some teeth into the argument.  Read it now…the clock is ticking.

Happiness for others comes from contentment within Frudal Dad.  A profound article.

The Digerati Life tells you how to trade stock without losing your shirt.

Moolanomy discusses how you can drive for free and retire rich.  A nice double whammy.

Insurance….this is nobody’s favorite subject.  But MoneyNing.com does an excellent job in looking at this subject in a helpful way.

If you want to understand the Federal Budget, this is the article for you.  A real masterpiece written by JD over at Get Rich Slowly.

Zen Habits encourages us to stop being so productive.  Learn why.

When is enough….enough?  Vicki Robin who wrote a guest post over at Simple Dollar, tries to answer this question.

Green Panda Treehouse examines the hidden cost of travel.

Monevator wrote a great piece about mark-to-market accounting.  This is timely because I happen to be writing a book on the subject.  This is very important for investors because it’s likely going to impact how companies report assets and profits in the future.  This article does a fantastic job of breaking the issue down.

 Here are a few carnivals I participated in:

Your Money Relationship

Debt Goal

Automatic Finances

Modern Tightwad

Have a wonderful weekend with people you love.

“Help Me Save Money As I Send Pilgrim Jr. Off To College” Links Edition

“Mini-Me” is going off to college in a few weeks.  Here are a few ideas I came up with that might help buffer the sticker shock:

1. Insure her items.

My daughter isn’t a klutz but you never know when someone is going to use her laptop as a basketball.  Here’s a company that insures college kids against theft and damage.

Two Steps To Save An Additional $55,012 On College Costs

You can build your own ivory tower with the cash you’ll save by taking a few unconventional steps.

If you are a regular reader, you already know that I am not a big fan of sending kids to expensive colleges.  Studies prove that our success in life is not a function of where we went to college.

Let Uncle Sam Boost Your Retirement Savings And Fund Junior’s College Costs Too

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Time for a quick super practical idea to save you a ton on tuition and fund your retirement at the same time.

I learned about this from a client, Rochelle.

When her daughter went to college, she bought a small three-unit building near campus. Her daughter moved into one unit and rented out the other two.

Is College a Waste of Time and Money?


I was talking to a young man named Andrew at a Memorial Day barbecue on Monday.  He told me that he just finished college and that he was excited about starting his career as a fireman.

Cheapo Parents Have Better Kids – The Proof

college2This is an email I received from David. He’s a young man who wanted to go to an expensive college but didn’t.  His parents played hard ball with him and miraculously,  he’s doing fine.  Despite going to a local college, he  came out of it without a wrap sheet or doing time in the “Big House”.

I light of the conversations we’ve been having about parents breaking their backs and banks sending kids to foo foo colleges, I thought you’d like to hear what he has to say:

I am a very lucky person. My parents taught me the value of money and work. I am

My Kid Starts College In September & My Savings Are Gone. Now What?

colletgeLast week Jerry sent me an email asking for help.

As a reminder, he’s a 50’s something who is expecting a pink slip any day at work. He expects difficulties ahead finding new work and to make matters worse, he’s facing college expenses for his children soon.  Oh…and did I mention…he hasn’t saved anything for retirement or college.  Sounds like a job for Super Wealth Pilgrim!

7 Steps To Turn Your College-Bound Kid Into A Financial Genius

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You may have started saving money for your kids’ college education many years ago – before the 529 plan was even established. If that’s the case, you probably used a Uniform Gifts To Minor Act account.  You should be commended for having the foresight and for your discipline.  But you need to understand that once your little baby reaches 18 years of age – that money belongs to her.  She can do whatever she wants with the money. What should you do now to prepare your “mini-me” to take over the financial reigns?

Steve called me last week with this exact question. He’d been saving for his

Why We Send Our Kids To Expensive Colleges

I’ve been baffled by this phenomenon for the last 20 years – I’m not kidding. preppies

Why are adults so willing to hock their right kidney in order to send their darling baby to the priciest school possible? Is it because they want their little pumpkins to have the best possible education?  Is it because they  want their wunderkind to hang out with Buffy and Chad for future connections? What is it?

Well, I finally figured it out.  It hit me in a flash as I walked back from the mailbox today.

It has nothing to do with the student’s prospect for future success – although that’s the lie we tell ourselves.  Studies prove that kids with equal ability have similar financial success in life regardless of where they go to college.

Nope.  One of the biggest reasons we send our kids to colleges that cost more than the first house we ever bought is because of our ego.

How do I know this?

Because when I went out to the mailbox  today I saw a letter from NYU.  My middle daughter had just been accepted and the first thing I wanted to do was go to Ebay and  list my kidney (and right arm)  to pay for it. At that instant, I was willing to do anything to send my own little pumpkin to NYU.

This was hysterical.  For years, I’ve been critical of people who do what I was so willing to do in a flash.

Thankfully, I came to my senses quickly.  When I really looked at my motivation at the instant, I saw that it had nothing to do with my child and everything to do with my own ego.  I am not saying there is anything wrong with NYU and I’m not saying she shouldn’t go there.

But the decision should be based on two factors alone:

a. What is the overall best decision for my daughter?

b. What can we afford?

I have to keep my ego out of these kinds of decisions.

This topic is important.  Even if you don’t have a child ready to go to college,  observe how your ego trumps your intellect if you don’t stay on top of it.

Was your ego involved the last time you bought a car?  A house?  A meal in a restaurant?  How much does your ego cost you on a daily basis?

Marketing is all about ego – so stay awake.  If there was ever a time to keep your ego out of financial decisions – this is it.

At the end of the day, my daughter may end up at NYU.  She may become friends with  Buffy and Chad.  I’m sure they are great kids too.  Of course, if their parents read this post and keep their egos out of the decision, there is a chance that Buffy and Chad will attend state college instead.

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